“And she will say, Paul, you're in trouble now. Stop. And…” — Airing Pain at 10:30
“And she will say, Paul, you're in trouble now. Stop. And it's like there's a traffic light saying you can stop and start again. We know where we are. We flagged up where you are and we can start again. See, what's interesting to me is then what's the story of how she felt able to do that with you and you being able…”
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