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“as ridiculous as it might sound, you may, you can, I'm…” — Hammer and Nails Podcast at 1:09:23

“as ridiculous as it might sound, you may, you can, I'm referring to this a lot to tell people to go online and look at what, you know, going rates offer things, but you actually can do that. Not that you're going to find a contract that necessarily will adhere to that, but at least it'll give you a good baseline. And…”

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