“when you're doing a full remodel in your house and you're…” — Hammer and Nails Podcast at 1:11:22
“when you're doing a full remodel in your house and you're spending a lot of time, you know, for me, it was like multiple meetings with a person giving them design ideas, which they'll probably use all those ideas for a cheaper price. But, you know, I don't have any problem telling people I'm probably going to be your…”
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