“A few years before this podcast came out, I met Karen…” — Sold a Story at 0:55
“A few years before this podcast came out, I met Karen Chenoweth at a conference. You and I sat next to each other at lunch. We didn't know each other. We hit it off immediately. We were both education reporters, and we were both kind of obsessed with reading instruction. I think I asked you what you were working on…”
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