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“You know, if you're applying it the same way that they…” — Hammer and Nails Podcast at 34:01

“You know, if you're applying it the same way that they are, if you're using it for the same type of job. Yeah, there's a number of people that get invited to these, you know, once a year expos, most of which are, like, either people on shows like us or they're people that are, like, writers for blogs about tools or…”

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