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“There are other things that weigh out the nagging driver.…” — Hammer and Nails Podcast at 9:27

“There are other things that weigh out the nagging driver. On the scale of one to ten, all those things being considered, I'd say that's like at the bottom of the, yeah. Yeah, yeah. And I think that we... We have plenty of other good shit to make up for being a nagging driver. Yeah, and I think we have a really, we…”

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