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“which hasn't really got anything to do with pain. I was…” — Airing Pain at 22:11

“which hasn't really got anything to do with pain. I was thinking more about sensation because even how do you describe sensations and how things feel like isn't easy. So I brought in lots of pieces from fabric, you know, cutoffs. I saw some kind of scratchy soft things, fluffy, feathery, and use that as an opening…”

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