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“So it's that kind of experience, that kind of moment…” — Airing Pain at 11:27

“So it's that kind of experience, that kind of moment, without trying to put it within the context of humour or telling a story about my whole journey of faith, but just that moment that's very real, I think, when you're in it. The fragment of time, the moment. We're not talking about this is my illness, this is how…”

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