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“early app store type of development about some of these…” — The Vergecast at 23:16

“early app store type of development about some of these companies, right? All the hype, all the money, all the excitement when you go visit these companies. They've got all the like typical startup stuff. And when I visited their company, I just like felt that. I was like, okay, you know, you guys have way too much…”

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