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“that decision, number one. Number two, he was just saying…” — Pod Save America at 17:30

“that decision, number one. Number two, he was just saying to the New York Times in that interview that he wants to try licensing fees. It's like Trump's stakes. Yeah, if that doesn't work. And of course, some of the tariffs have already been lifted. He's already backed off some of the tariffs. So it's muddled there.…”

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