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“you know, fascism as a sort of academic thesis, as it was…” — Pod Save America at 22:33

“you know, fascism as a sort of academic thesis, as it was perhaps in the 2024 election. I think that stuff, because it's unfolding on videos and on streets and in cities all over the country, it resonates in a way. And it's therefore maybe more meaningful than, you know, the discussion about Trump's autocratic…”

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