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“is a reaction. Yep. They absolutely want a reaction. They…” — Pod Save America at 31:18

“is a reaction. Yep. They absolutely want a reaction. They want to provoke a reaction. Yep. You hear J.D. Vance in an interview this week saying like, oh, well, we got to... J.D. Vance and Stephen Miller think they have done poorly on deportations. They think that they are getting heat. They're not listening to the…”

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