“The only optimistic part is that I think it's going to be…” — Pod Save America at 44:19
“The only optimistic part is that I think it's going to be tough for whatever decision they make to be implemented before these midterms. But that's cold comfort for generations to come. I also think, and we've seen that this year with redistricting, that what's going to happen then is sort of a gerrymandering race to…”
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