“you know, Trump's popular or middling, then like maybe…” — Pod Save America at 46:23
“you know, Trump's popular or middling, then like maybe they're fine. But if Trump gets even worse, it gets even less popular than then J.D. Vance's ambitions are fucked and he can't break from Donald Trump. Right. And so he has to be as extreme as possible. And I think he happens to believe most of it, too. But even…”
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