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“Now, he's a Hollywood guy. We had to deal with agents and…” — Coaching Through Chaos Podcast at 18:42

“Now, he's a Hollywood guy. We had to deal with agents and all of these things. So anytime that happens, we have mixed results because we've had a number of large speakers who were dealing with agents, and we don't really know what we're going to get. Sometimes they'll just show up, roll in, do their thing, and leave.…”

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