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“how this all came to be that you are now the co-founder of…” — Coaching Through Chaos Podcast at 3:34

“how this all came to be that you are now the co-founder of this conference. Yeah. So kind of like you said, I started out very young, just doing all sorts of entrepreneurial things. Actually, most of them online. I wasn't the typical lemonade stand kind of kid. I was building websites for people and starting my own…”

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