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“and shit. I'm like, I don't like that. I don't want to be…” — The Joe Rogan Experience at 1:32:17

“and shit. I'm like, I don't like that. I don't want to be like, you know, enslaved by a drug, by a pharmaceutical drug. Yeah. Yeah. And it's like also like, now you just take this the rest of your life. It's like, what's the end result here? Yeah, Theo Vaughn's going through the exact same thing.”

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