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“Do you think it is? I think so. But I think it's really…” — The Joe Rogan Experience at 1:45:43

“Do you think it is? I think so. But I think it's really just about like, your will and like, your mental, your ability, just like we were talking about like, with diets and stuff, you know, like does an epic help curb, you know, appetites, but you could also just exercise and just have”

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