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“It's just interest rates. The overall marketplace S&P 500…” — The Joe Rogan Experience at 1:13:42

“It's just interest rates. The overall marketplace S&P 500, it just beats real estate. Commercial real estate is good to get for tax advantages. But the American dream isn't owning a home anymore. It's the freedom of renting because you can live wherever you want. You can move for a job like that.”

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