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“All these people that have this rosy view of it, they're…” — The Joe Rogan Experience at 3:52

“All these people that have this rosy view of it, they're all invested heavily into it. So when someone like you who's not necessarily in that camp, you know, that is more of a true objective analyst of what's going on, when you have a positive aspect or a positive viewpoint of it, I get a little more excited.”

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