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“that nobody understands it. I'm not saying don't publish…” — The Joe Rogan Experience at 2:47:49

“that nobody understands it. I'm not saying don't publish papers and things. They'll still very much have their place and they're important. But focus on the messaging to the common person. So the common person now cares, then there becomes more funding and resources. Then we don't all have to fight over”

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