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“And you know, and who knows what he was trying to get them…” — The Joe Rogan Experience at 2:17:58

“And you know, and who knows what he was trying to get them to do. He was probably just one of those guys. I mean, you never ended up meeting him, but he was probably just incredibly likable as a con man. You know what I mean? You probably sat in a room with him and you're”

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