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“because it's just the scientific system in wildlife and…” — The Joe Rogan Experience at 2:44:36

“because it's just the scientific system in wildlife and conservation is so broken, because it's very, first of all, first of all, if you're an animal guy, you're probably not a great people person to begin with, myself included. You're not a bad people person. Thanks. But for the most part, the people that get”

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