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“Okay, and this is the thing you notice with with these…” — The Joe Rogan Experience at 46:49

“Okay, and this is the thing you notice with with these directors that break through and do an amazing first movie and then it's kind of followed by a lot of Ho hum stuff. You mean the Matrix? Yeah, well the Wieckowski's the Matrix was this cultural phenomenon it changed everything and blah blah blah blah”

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