“They're saying it because they think it's gonna help them…” — The Joe Rogan Experience at 2:32:35
“They're saying it because they think it's gonna help them and get them to win. It's kooky stuff Yeah, man, and nobody wants the job. That's the other thing. Well, no, but no really successful person who would really be good at it wants the job It's too much work. It's a hassle”
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