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“that's, this is totally unaccountable. This is some…” — The Joe Rogan Experience at 2:49:37

“that's, this is totally unaccountable. This is some bureaucrat that's discovered a rule. Nancy Skinner, who used to represent Berkeley, found this thing in some obscure place that no one had noticed for 20 years, suddenly this bureaucratic agency decides to bring in this rule. Not no input from”

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