“Well, the reputation, but he's also so old that he's not…” — The Joe Rogan Experience at 2:10:06
“Well, the reputation, but he's also so old that he's not working anymore anyway. But the thing about it was that pardon that gave him a pardon for crimes that he had not been convicted for, which had never happened before. A preemptive pardon for and also for 10 whole years or everything he did,”
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