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“it could be real. That's what I thought. The numbers are…” — The Joe Rogan Experience at 2:28:08

“it could be real. That's what I thought. The numbers are so crazy. It seems like some sort of conspiracy theory is easily disproven. Exactly. Well, in the first reporting of it was the New York Times, 2023. Holy shit. And everything that's coming out is it's worse even than that. What do you think”

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