“It's not just an actual phrase, but that's what it is. And…” — The Joe Rogan Experience at 2:39:01
“It's not just an actual phrase, but that's what it is. And it's kind of religious, and like Mark Andries has talked about this. It's kind of like a cult. Like if you don't follow it, you are excommunicated. Yeah. And I did a conference the other day in Sacramento where I went up.”
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