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“He would like kind of, I don't know. You had this kind of…” — The Joe Rogan Experience at 1:08:06

“He would like kind of, I don't know. You had this kind of trick three vibe. There's an amazing clip actually with him and John Mack where John Mack is actually getting kind of very ideologically angry and actually similar to what you just said about Rick Strassman.”

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