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“So like it's really crazy. We're in the Stone Age on this…” — The Joe Rogan Experience at 1:27:59

“So like it's really crazy. We're in the Stone Age on this stuff. Actually, somebody who's like really up on, I think he's, I think he's, he's, he's responsible for a lot of modern disclosure, but he's like blown by a lot of people is Tom DeLong, the plink on 82 crazy, right?”

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