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“Which actually is kind of good. You want to be able to…” — The Joe Rogan Experience at 22:15

“Which actually is kind of good. You want to be able to compare their kind of trauma to other people's trauma. But I have to say, and I know you've covered this extensively, but the work on Ibogaine has, in my mind has completely revised the way that we think about psychedelic therapy because”

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