“It doesn't mean it's not possible. No, it just has a bad…” — The Joe Rogan Experience at 1:04:57
“It doesn't mean it's not possible. No, it just has a bad name. That's a bad name. It's spirituality. It's attached to a lot of people that, you know, through no fault of their own, they're trying to find their own way and they're using that kind of lingo.”
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