“two. What can you tell me? And he said, you're not going…” — The Joe Rogan Experience at 1:59:22
“two. What can you tell me? And he said, you're not going to like the answer. And it boiled down to, he said, you go where the fire is burning the brightest and you try and put it out. That was his management technique. That was ill. The fire of chaos or the fire of creativity?”
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