“And I was like, what, I was confused at the time. I didn't…” — The Joe Rogan Experience at 57:10
“And I was like, what, I was confused at the time. I didn't know what that meant. I was like, why? Creating. Was that mean? It took too much creating? Like, no, his body's so broken down from training. It's not safe for him to fight. Like, how's that possible? Like, how does somebody show up”
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