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“off of them and then there's also a lot of people who…” — The Joe Rogan Experience at 2:36:59

“off of them and then there's also a lot of people who don't want people taking these therapies because it will cost them money in terms of the amount of orthopedic surgeries they get that's a real thing and they have influence and there's it's a real problem and unfortunately people are willing to”

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