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“And he says, how much are you going to charge me? And so I…” — Online Success Journey at 37:19

“And he says, how much are you going to charge me? And so I gave him my fee. And Frank, who's the assistant plan manager, the plan manager turns to the assistant plan manager and says, what do you think? And the assistant plan manager said, if it doesn't work, don't pay him. I said, okay, we have an understanding…”

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