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“and to keep the wind on their side. We need to learn how…” — Pod Save America at 1:05:38

“and to keep the wind on their side. We need to learn how to work like that. Why are we so nice about everything, man? I mean, I'm a pastor, and sometimes you just have to give some tough love. Man, we are too nice about our politics, and we just let them run over us, man. I believe in turning the other cheeks, but…”

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