“Well, just, you know, it is hopeful. But then you look at…” — Pod Save America at 8:17
“Well, just, you know, it is hopeful. But then you look at this and you start to like, I don't know. I allow myself to say, OK, well, what are some of the less hopeful signs? Because why not? Why not? And, you know, you see like some tightening in Florida. You see you see polling. You see Biden underperforming amongst…”
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