“They really do try. I even have a friend who's trying…” — Material at 57:58
“They really do try. I even have a friend who's trying right now in real life. And it's it's interesting. It's tough. It's interesting. It is. You have to really know. You have to really understand. You have to be you have to be a techie. Yeah. Sorry to use that phrasing, but you got to be a techie. And it's not…”
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