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“effect, that movement forward? Because I don't think you…” — Airing Pain at 12:09

“effect, that movement forward? Because I don't think you can do one without the other. Maybe we have to do more of it as patients. I was sceptical. Firstly, I work in radio. Doing anything on art on the radio can be a little bit of a nightmare. However, I'm incredibly impressed that I could carry one of your works of…”

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