“Yeah, that's probably true. Yeah, probably true. We…” — Missing at 16:22
“Yeah, that's probably true. Yeah, probably true. We definitely swam in those controversial waters a bit more in those early days, sort of entertaining some of the online speculation. Just, you know, I don't know. Times have changed in a lot of ways. It's definitely a different atmosphere. Yeah. Yeah, what you did was…”
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