“I almost don't care in terms of self-interest. None of…” — Freakonomics Radio at 43:01
“I almost don't care in terms of self-interest. None of these products have any money attached to them in any way, shape or form. And I've tried very, very hard to keep it that way. There's no startup. There's no hidden profit motive or revenue here. So that simplifies things for me. When you say that you don't want…”
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