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“Well, it's not really a governmental agency. I don't think…” — Freakonomics Radio at 7:12

“Well, it's not really a governmental agency. I don't think that it's made up of people who have the public good in mind. They may think they do, but it really is more like a professional association, a group of like-minded professionals who are looking out for the interests of the profession. Early on in her…”

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