“took Catherine Ramsland's class. I was doing this whole…” — Missing at 30:42
“took Catherine Ramsland's class. I was doing this whole show about how Rex Hewerman picked up Mindhunter book and like looked at the book and tried to like get away with what he was doing. He's like, oh, I'm going to mutilate this person to appear disorganized because the disorganized killer looks very different from…”
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