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“20 years is a long time to have pain like that. And she…” — Airing Pain at 5:36

“20 years is a long time to have pain like that. And she said, no, this is last chance saloon. How do you feel about that? I don't think that's quite true. I think, you know, she's probably told the other doctor she saw as well. I think she is searching for a cause too much. I think that, you know, at some point she…”

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