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“But then you've also got the psychological underpinnings…” — Airing Pain at 12:20

“But then you've also got the psychological underpinnings of pain. Pain isn't just tissue damage or organ damage. It's all the rest. It's the whole pain uromatrix that gets involved. And hypnosis can help psychotherapeutically. Using the hypnotic snake can kind of help people to explore and resolve whatever might be…”

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