“So we didn't know any better. I'm sure they did. I'd like…” — Missing at 12:25
“So we didn't know any better. I'm sure they did. I'd like to go back maybe a little bit further. What was the upbringing like for your mom? And what was the upbringing like for your father? What was their childhood like? Yeah, mom was really isolated. She didn't have a mother. Her mother didn't want her, I guess. So…”
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