“just do whatever he wanted to do. And it didn't matter if…” — Missing at 14:24
“just do whatever he wanted to do. And it didn't matter if it was right or wrong. But I know his dad was really good, a really good man. But I think the mother, his mother was more domineering and she wasn't a criminal either. She was not, they were both basically good people from what I understand. So I don't know…”
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