“Da Vinci or whether it's Steve Jobs, as I mentioned, or…” — Missing at 29:05
“Da Vinci or whether it's Steve Jobs, as I mentioned, or Walt Disney, who was somebody who was not necessarily a person you would walk into a room and say, well, I really love that guy. Because, you know, they were really prickly and they were really hard to get along. But I think Frank was the same way. John Lennon…”
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